Posted by Bill G on Sunday, 07/28/2019 @ 00:36am, Since the lower rungs no longer reflect multiples of 12, a couple more artists should move up to that top rung and give us even multiples of 13, 14, or 15, whatever it would be up to by now. Best hip hop: I don't much care for it, but even I would concede Public Enemy's suitability. T. Rex: 7/10 That's all I have. Pat Benatar (Level 1) As far as the 2013 inductees are concerned and their tier placement is concerned: Carl Perkins Posted by Gary on Friday, 01/4/2019 @ 18:23pm. The Rock Pyramid is missing the class of 2017 and 2018 inductees. 8. 92. 188. Eminem: 10/10 None of them were saints though. -I have to say Madonna. NWA pulls a 2 and everyone else a 1. Posted by Dan on Wednesday, 07/24/2013 @ 17:34pm. 1999 1988, 1986, 2001, 2004, 1997, Posted by Alec on Monday, 04/21/2014 @ 23:04pm, I'll play along: "Save Me" The Undertones Donna Summer (middle 3rd) 1997 Bill Monroe Joan Jett and the Blackhearts R.E.M: 10/10 "Bad Girl" Dazz Band, Mary Wells, Jackie Jackson. Genesis "We've Come Too Far To End It Now"-The Escorts Level 3 This pyramid, while not updated, has provided a lot of inspiration for my list that I'm currently writing: the Rock and Roll Hall of Famers ranked from best to worst. 201. I'm giving him the Chris Paul memorial spot from the BoB. Probably Patti Smith, though any of the acts that had one legendary hit (7 that's all) could also be placed here. ELO - 1 If you consider what the Velvet Underground did to not be metal, then the Velvets. Tiny Archibald, 68. Any music released from the early 90s onwards that involves a drum kit and electric guitar has been influenced by Metallica in one way or another, from commercial/stadium rock to the most inaccessible of extreme metal. Talented as hell, but weird as hell. I had to move him up. Upgrade Depeche Mode, Whitney Houston, and T. Rex. Their overwhelming commercial success then? 81. Blondie: 8/10 on Thursday, 05/20/2021 @ 02:05am. 2. Does The Secret have a shelf life? Meanest: Ike Turner! Posted by John R.C. Lionel Richie (Level 1) Young Frankenstein However, I do disagree with you on Neil Young's ranking. Buddy Guy: 8/10 4. 3. Dallas now has a costar alongside Luka Doncic but has precious little time to make it all work, Plus, Jonny Lazarus talks Patrick Kane joining the Rangers, Tyson and Riley are joined by Reiman (Spencer) Bledsoe to compare first-timers and reoccurring competitors, as well as the different types of advantages this season, Plus, the guys later close the show with Americas favorite segment: Two Jargons, One Lie, Justin, Rob, and Wos talk the Lakers, the Pelicans, Nikola Jokic, and more, There is also discussion of Alabamas Brandon Miller and his connection to the case of a fatal shooting, By submitting your email, you agree to our. It's Bill's idea and his rankings, I'm simply putting a fresh coat of paint on the building. Most snubbed before finally inducted: Hall and Oates. Posted by DarinRG on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 22:09pm. I might as well jump in on this poll: Posted by Nick Both bands have always struck me as being out of place as 1st-year inductees, and it could be a case of their influence or perceived importance decreasing over time, even their induction. Posted by John R.C. I'd at least move up Aretha, the Boss, and Bowie, Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 04/2/2019 @ 14:50pm. Donna Summer: 2 By choosing I Accept, you consent to our use of cookies and other tracking technologies. Posted by Plebeian on Thursday, 05/20/2021 @ 16:09pm. Posted by FRL on Tuesday, 01/1/2019 @ 10:05am. "After All" The Supremes, The Marvelettes. Little Willie John Run-DMC Nope! * This only goes to the Rockist group who mostly bash on these types of artist and keep saying that the formerly snubbed-artist should be in already. Because of the lamestream press' overhype of the Pistols, several people actually think they started punk rock, which of course they didn't. Curtis Mayfield Heckthe first Motown act, PERIOD. Please enter a valid email and try again. Lots of 1s easily are 3 and 4s. Posted by Mark on Wednesday, 05/8/2019 @ 17:32pm. 48. Chic Sex Pistols (Level 3) Have at it. If they don't? AC/DC Pearl Jam and Nina Simone are borderline Level 2/3 acts, in my opinion. "I've Been Good To You" Marshall Crenshaw, Brenda Holloway, Joe Meek, The Temptones, Ray, Goodman & Brown (The Moments), The Ones, The Temptations. Adande. Over the past two-three years, I've become heavily enamored with blues, jazz, bluegrass, country/western, and even old Tin Pan Alley/classic standards. Posted by Shrek on Monday, 01/7/2019 @ 13:23pm. Simmons shares credit for the idea with his friend Gus Ramsey and Wally Ramsey., 2. Prince, The Beatles, James Brown, Public Enemy, Marvin Gaye, The Temptations, The Rolling Stones, Beastie Boys, Louis Jordan, Michael Jackson, Little Richard, Sly & the Family Stone, Frank Zappa, Stevie Wonder, Parliament-Funkadelic, Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan, Buddy Holly, The Miracles, The Beach Boys, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Booker T. & the MGs, Otis Redding, Sam Cooke, Carole King, Run-DMC, Chuck Berry, David Bowie, The Drifters, Fats Domino, Miles Davis, The Velvet Underground and Nirvana. "I Don't Blame You At All" - Rosetta Hightower. "Love Machine" Wham!, Thelma Houston Bosh deserves to be included. Fleetwood Mac: 8/10 Bo Diddley: 10/10 The Cure: 8/10 Unless the answer to this is the Invisible Band, you've got a problem here. 68. NWA pulls a 2 and everyone else a 1. Putting him ahead of bands like The Byrds, The Doors, Black Sabbath and most of the other bands on the 3rd tier is ridiculous. Jay-Z and Biggie Smalls are in the most appropriate level. 107. Rush: 7/10 The Platters Joni Mitchell: 9/10 "I Second That Emotion" Japan, Michael McDonald, Kiki Dee, The Manhattan Transfer, Jerry Garcia, Diana Ross & the Supremes with the Temptations, 10db, Tammy Wynette, Jos Feliciano, Emilie, Stuck In The Middle, Thelma Jones. 178. "Determination" The Contours. Posted by M. Scott on Friday, 09/23/2016 @ 02:41am. The former MVP has adapted and evolved to become an excellent conductor of Phillys offense. Their experimentation? HOW I BECOME SUCCESSFUL IN LIFE THROUGH THE RICHES OF ILUMINATI Difficult to say. 209. In the early 90s, by some weird quirk, the music press decided they were the great American band. "(You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man In You" Chuck Jackson They gave her a Jehova's Witness pitch and when they left they just drove off. Level 3 ?? Jefferson Airplane: 8/10 Posted by Joe on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 02:56am, For what it's worth (and my guess), the levels for the new inductees would be: 1990 Ma Rainey I'm really not surprised you could do that. Dylan, The Stones, Sabbath, Zeppelin, The Velvet Underground, Bowie, Queen, The Miracles, Pink Floyd, James Brown If you prefer to look at the Hall of Famers in a sortable list, here is where to go. Solomon Burke: 7/10 He was the 2nd best player on the Lakers teams from '08-'10, but didn't make the cut for the original Pyramid. 2012 Freddie King I still question that there isn't more room in each rung, there should be more room added with each class. Nine Inch Nails-2 Bill Russell was a very important pioneer for the NBA and the modern player, he was a winner, and he was a great leader. 3/10 = Mediocre 1996 Dr. John: 5/10 Level 5 is the top of the pyramid, literally and figuratively. Very good insight expect Dolly should be Level 2 mostly because she's one of the most important women in popular music as a whole. Santana 8/10 = No Brainers Sam and Dave John Lennon 2022 Kareem, 3. Its impossible to figure out Stephen Currys phenomenal decade without hashing through everything that happened that night. 193. CCR (Level 3) Shaq, 12. Journey In a word, no. 32. The Dells Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. "A Legend In Its Own Time" J Dilla (as an exercept of his song "One Eleven"). I love this site and all the work you do. The Four Tops Most influential besides The Beatles, Elvis Presley, and Chuck Berry? And yes, the RRHOF still is missing a Tier 4 group in Kraftwerk because the voters are idiots who hate Electronic music (amongst other things). Radiohead were around then. 9. Yes - 2 (they could be a 1 too but I like them a lot and they are one of the definitive progressive rock bands so I upped them to a 2) Most civilized inductee? The Cure Yes- 4 how NBA Hall of Fame inductees should be chosen but how the institution must be reshaped from the ground up, the result being the Pyramid: Simmons's one-of-a-kind five-level shrine to the ninety-six greatest players in the history of pro The Pyramid has been updated through the class of 2021. There are many, many 2000s and '10s era bands that are more engaging. I fully expect him to skyrocket up these rankings as soon as this summer. Deep Purple Bill Stewart WJBF-TV 2015 72. "(Come 'Round Here) I'm The One You Need " The Jackson 5, The Cowsills, The GP's Cheap Trick - 1 Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 09:54am. I'm not going to wade into these waters. Bob Marley (Level 5) Their accolades are eerily similar, but I like Wade a little more. I would also move Talking Heads up to the 4th tier. Kiss: 7/10 156. Journey During a time period when Nirvana were pretty much single handedly destroying the metal scene, and metal kids were becoming grunge kids, they released the most iconic metal tune of all time, in an album that sold around 30 million copies. Electric Light Orchestra- 3 Depeche Mode Bob Seger: 7/10 Send a Message. (Believe me, people I've talked to actually think that!) Well, if you honestly believe that the king of weepy singer-songwriters James Taylor (who has no business in any HOF other than the consignment store record bin HOF) did more to develop rock 'n roll (not rock music, that's a needless abbreviation) than The Ventures (with the exception of Booker T and the MG's, the most significant instrumental rock 'n roll band of the 1960s), then I have nothing to say (as Oliver Hardy would have said). Posted by AlexVoltaire on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 08:03am, Deep Purple/NWA- Level 2 Marvin Gaye (Level 5) They never put out more than one outrageously good record. Bob Marley They are a 2 at best. I meant the DIRECT influence on later generations of rockers from people who were rockers themselves. The Pretenders: 8/10 Lionel Richie 118. 14. 157. "The Hurt is Over" The DT's SMF 2015, Simple Machines. Otis Redding: 10/10 192. Genesis: 7/10 1. "Bad Girl" Dazz Band. Regarding your throughts on the 2014 Nominees, I would say that the only group that I woundn't celebrate getting into the Hall would be NWA. Janet Jackson: 9/10 I think the Doors and Grateful Dead should be in the fourth level of the pyramid. Miles Davis: 9/10 John Mellencamp Plebeian, 9. Curtis Mayfield: 9/10 No. I might be a better athlete than Stockton (not true). "Happy Landing" - The Temptations. -First ballot? B. The Ramones are a case in point. I would also put Blue Cheer, Steppenwolf, Mountain, and Iron Butterfly on the pyramid too. Kevin Garnett, 24. Whitney Houston-5 61. 39. " Steve Miller: 3/10 132. Bill Simmons remembers the day when he learned The Secret of basketball from Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas, then built his New York Times no. The Bee Gees: 9/10 Nirvana: 10/10 I'm tempted to group him with Dominique in Level 2, but Carmelo didn't run into Bird ever year. "(You Can't Let the Boy Overpower) The Man In You" Chuck Jackson In addition, the Miracles have been regarded as the most covered act in Motown's roster and have influenced numerous artists worldwide in the last 50 years. I can't in good conscience not include Manu in the Pyramid. Earth, Wind & Fire: 8/10 Peter Gabriel That's who he is. 2001 Jimmy Reed They have 18 acts in their top tier, and based on this David Bowie should be in Level 5. 2005 Linda Ronstadt The Shirelles And, while you're thinking about THAT, Consider THIS: But Neil aside, I like your other changes. Gene Vincent: Influenced The Beatles, The Clash, Jeff Page and Jimmy Page (Led Zeppelin). Carole King-Level 1 Deal wit' it, yo. Since there are 221 as of now, two or three more should be promoted to level 5 (and more to the other levels), if only to maintain the proportions. Young's acoustic music is only one side of a multi-faceted artist. It's that "X" Factor that separates true legends from also-rans.The Men from the Boys. Posted by Follower on Saturday, 01/19/2019 @ 16:38pm. Bonnie Raitt All the Star Wars films or the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. The Animals New York: ESPN Books. The guy was a good singer-songwritermaybe the best of the 70's, but his innovation as a solo artist was pretty much zero. Peter Gabriel: 7/10 8/10 = No Brainers 10. The Who, Metallica, Led Zeppelin would all rank up there. 10/10 = Immortals, Legends & Icons 222. You like what you like. All I ask is that you don't put Bon Jovi or Journey in last place. Albert King (lower 3rd) 1 bestselling book around the premise in 2009. 160. Chuck Berry: 10/10 He's gotten outplayed in three Finals - by really great players, but still. The Lion King, Posted by Andrew on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 20:04pm. Posted by BSLO on Friday, 11/1/2013 @ 10:40am. on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 22:30pm. We all know that not all Hall of Famers were equally important to rock and roll history, so the pyramid simply provides an elegant way to illustrate that fact. There are a lot of critic's darlings that fade over time. 63. Well, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum in Cleveland is already shaped like a pyramid2, so it was only natural to take Simmons' baseball idea and apply it to rock and roll. Buddy Guy: 8/10 12. I'm a musician myself, my band plays a mix of originals and 70s/80s/90s rock covers, and Radiohead's name never comes up between any of us. Eurythmics (Level 1) This thread is archived Posted by shrek on Friday, 01/11/2019 @ 20:45pm. As Bill Simmons wrote in his article, it's just more fun to think of the Hall of Fame as a pyramid. 2005 was pretty good too. Like it or lump it, your shit still stinks just like the rest of ours. Get Museum Tickets The (Small) Faces 114. John Lennon should be moved way, way down. Part of the best shooting backcourt of all-time and a key part in the Warriors dynasty. Patti Smith: 9/10 "Got A Job" The Marcels 84. David Robinson, 33. Isaac Hayes I don't think either of them have been as influential, but obviously that's my biggest criteria. Dolly Parton-Level 2-The only caveat is that she isn't strictly rock 'n' roll, like Miles Davis, Nina Simone or Joan Baez, but with songs like Jolene, Coat of Many Colors, 9 to 5, I Will Always Love You etc, I think she deserves this position Bonnie Raitt: 7/10 2001 I'd rather they be a 3, but a lot of those 3s are untouchable. Again, just ANOTHER REASON why THE MIRACLES should be at Level 4 !!! The Coasters: 8/10 Can't see any update yet. 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